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Old 10-12-2007, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ISLAM and MUSIC????

Aoa!!! I want to know abt a hadith or a quranic verse which can tell that music z haram. i dnt listen to music myself after i heard from DR. ZAKIR NAIK that it z nt allowed n islam. I want to stop others also but they ask for a reference. So plz if anyone can help!!!!
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This seems quite harsh, wile realising the issue that music is totally a controversial issue... Please also pay attention to verse 59, of Surah Yunus, i which Allah asks men not to evolve things from themselves as halaal and haraam... (realising the fact that there is no verse in the Quran which specificallu bans music)...

I have immensely talked regarding this subject with other people and i do not want to debate on it any further, seeing that it remains a controversy...

It would be best for you to stay away from them. They are imitiating the kuffar. But people gonna say, 'well, but they mention islam, Allah", so what. All these songs and nasheeds take muslims away from listening to quran. Their hearts get fillled with the love for nashees and slowly abandoning quran step by step. Trust me, those are tricks of shaytan. There some exceptions when it is permissible to use nasheeds, but should they be used all the time? or even make concerts. May Allah make our hearts love the Quran. If we enjoy listening nasheeds more than quran, then something is wrong with the piece of meat in our chest, the heart.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I still haven't got a convincing counter from anyone to the argument presented in favor of Music in Khuda Ke Liye.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I remember sometime back when i was very young my Ustaani used to say that "Jo Gaanay sunta hay uskay kano(Ears) mai seesa(molten steel) dala jaega"

Here is some
http://www.faithandthearts.com/image...1201143504.pdf

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Old 10-12-2007, 11:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i was a music addict (still having 3500+ songs on hdd, 200+ tapes, 400+ cds).
i considered music to be islamically lawful against the common belief since theres no direct verse in the Quran in this regard, did research for months.. articles by different scholars.. fatwa sites and also went through the book on music by imam Ghazali (mentioned in the article by azeembhai) written a 1000 years ago (part of his ihyatul uluum)..
i couldnt find my answers and stopped listening to music just for the heck of it..
perhaps one should leave it just to decrease the contradictions which we are living with in our minds..
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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many things are not allowed in Islam but we do it even we are 100% sure that its forbidden

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Narrated Abu Malik Al-Ashari:

"The Messenger (pbuh) of Allah (SWT) said, "Some people of my Ummah will drink wine, calling it by other than its real name, merriment will be made for them through the playing of musical instruments and the singing of lady singers. Allah will cleave the earth under them and turn others into monkeys and swines.

[Ibn Ma'jah Vol.5 Hadith No.4020]
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Narrated Abu Amir or Abu Malik Al Ashari that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

[Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol.7 Hadith No.5590]
i think it will be cleared now. being a muslim we should admit that its forbidden.
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Thanx a lot ARMANI101 bhai for the40 hadith. one question that i would like to ask is that our NATIONAL ANTHEM also contains music. Also some milli tarana's also contain music. Is this right(allowed in islam)????
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Bhai mera i will try my level best to answere ur questions..
NATIONAL ANTHEM also contains music.Also some milli tarana's contain music.

First i will answere what is music?
Music is the art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm. Noise results when irregular vibrations are made at irregular times. Musical sound results when regular vibrations of the voice or a musical instrument are produced.

Second answere is NATIONAL ANTHEM also contains music.All our milli tarana's contain music ?
My answere is yes they all do contains music, but what made them so evergreen, different types of musical instrument used in them. Now read this what is written in 40 AHAADITH on MUSIC which i have posted..

(11). Hadhrat Ibn Abbaas (radhiyallahu anhu) narrated: "The musical drum (tablah) is haraam. Liquor is haraam, and musical instruments are haraam." (Kaf-fur Ruaa')

(15). Hadhrat Ibn Abbaas (radhiyallahu anhu) narrated that Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: "I have been sent (by Allah Ta'ala) to destroy the musical drum (tablah) and the flute." (Jam'ul Jawaami')
The tablah and other forms of musical drums are not to be confused with the duff for which there is limited permissibility.

(17). Hadhrat Ali (radhiyallahu anhu) said: "Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) prohibited beating of the duff (drum) and the sound of the flute." (Nailul Autaar)

From this Hadith as well as others, the ambiguity about the duff is eliminated. It is clear from several Ahaadith that the general ruling of prohibition applies to even the duff. However, an exception has been made for o*!nly the duff for the Days of Eid and marriage occasions provided no haraam acts are committed. This Hadith has the effect of abrogation. It cancels out the other narrations in which the duff was allowed. The fact that Hadhrat Ali (radhiyallahu anhu) and other Sahaabah too propagated the general prohibition of the duff even after the demise of Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) is sufficient substantiation for the abrogating force of this Hadith as well as other Ahaadith which also mention the prohibition of the duff. etc etc..

Since our childhood we are listening to our national anthem and our milli tarana's almost everyday of our lives through different media Radio Pakistan and PTV and some other different channels. So now u tell me what should we do about them ?. Can me and u and members of this forum stop them and tell them that this national anthem and our milli tarana's have Haram Music.. NO.NO.. Just let it go and stay focus in ur life..

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Thanx a lot ARMANI101 bhai for the40 hadith. one question that i would like to ask is that our NATIONAL ANTHEM also contains music. Also some milli tarana's also contain music. Is this right(allowed in islam)????
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Old 17-12-2007, 09:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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music is not haram .haram basically states towards eatables like liquor and pork.
if people think music is haram what would happen to all the naat singers.they just wont pack up and leave.so music is not haram.and it depends how u look at it.
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